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    Quote Originally Posted by DanD View Post
    Really? How about backing up your belief?
    About Coakley or virgin births?

    I haven't seen Brown be close-minded, but he sure as hell has an annoying spam-fest going on Facebook. Still, I'll vote for the one who agrees to take the position without pay or perks. Otherwise, it's two sides of the same corrupt political coin.

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    I'm not sure what you mean by backing up my beliefs.... I suggest you look at the candidate websites....

    Scott Brown <http://www.brownforussenate.com/issues>
    Brown says a lot about nothing. He doesn't believe in any social programs. He believes in big business and that laborers should be taking care of themselves. He offers no solutions to the problems we currently have. He wants to lower taxes, but offers no plan as to how to pay off the debt we've incurred over the last decade. He doesn't support healthcare reform, but then states we should give GIs the best medical care available.... how does he propose to do this ? He doesn't want to appear weak to our enemies, and therefore refuses to sit down with them and just talk. He doesn't support rights for homosexuals unless its the will of the people... using this logic, women would still not be able to vote, and blacks would still be in the back of the bus. He believes in the death penalty, rather than social repayment. I don't see any progressive ideas here... just the same old, same old.

    Martha Coakley <http://www.marthacoakley.com/about/Issues>
    Coakley supports healthcare reform, and healthcare for all. She says we need to pay our debts off and taxes are one way of doing this. She promotes new jobs for the unemployed, so that they can pay taxes and support themselves. She supports breaking bread with our enemies, not to give in, but to teach... (Abraham Lincoln said.. An enemy at my table is no longer my enemy). She supports equal rights for all, not just a few that have MY beliefs and convictions. She is against the Death Penalty. Her website is full of ideas, pages and pages, compared to Scott Brown's. She is not afraid to voice an opinion, even if she's in the minority, and she sticks to it. New Ideas, outside the box.

    So I say again, Brown is tooooo conservative for me. Coakley is more progressive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean by backing up my beliefs.... I suggest you look at the candidate websites....

    Scott Brown <http://www.brownforussenate.com/issues>
    Brown says a lot about nothing. He doesn't believe in any social programs. He believes in big business and that laborers should be taking care of themselves. He offers no solutions to the problems we currently have. He wants to lower taxes, but offers no plan as to how to pay off the debt we've incurred over the last decade. He doesn't support healthcare reform, but then states we should give GIs the best medical care available.... how does he propose to do this ? He doesn't want to appear weak to our enemies, and therefore refuses to sit down with them and just talk. He doesn't support rights for homosexuals unless its the will of the people... using this logic, women would still not be able to vote, and blacks would still be in the back of the bus. He believes in the death penalty, rather than social repayment. I don't see any progressive ideas here... just the same old, same old.

    Martha Coakley <http://www.marthacoakley.com/about/Issues>
    Coakley supports healthcare reform, and healthcare for all. She says we need to pay our debts off and taxes are one way of doing this. She promotes new jobs for the unemployed, so that they can pay taxes and support themselves. She supports breaking bread with our enemies, not to give in, but to teach... (Abraham Lincoln said.. An enemy at my table is no longer my enemy). She supports equal rights for all, not just a few that have MY beliefs and convictions. She is against the Death Penalty. He website is full of ideas, pages and pages, compared to Scott Brown's. She is not afraid to voice an opinion, even if she's in the minority, and she sticks to it. New Ideas, outside the box.

    So I say again, Brown is tooooo conservative for me. Coakley is more progressive
    Pay off our debts: cutting spending is another way of doing this; and a better one at a time where the unemployment rate is where it is.
    New jobs: by taxing businesses or giving them tax breaks? Which method encourages job growth? Or is this one of those "we'll give more low-income people food stamps to help the middle class" arguments?
    Breaking bread with enemies: Non-interventionist is the way to go. People have been fighting over who has the best God or worships their God the best way for centuries....since the dawn of time. You don't negotiate and break bread to resolution with people who would nuke your ass on the street just because you are American or Catholic or Christian or NOT the right kind of Muslim. Unless you want to get nuked into the next life, that is.
    Equal rights for all who DON'T break the law, regardless of race, religion, color, sexual preference, favorite animal, color, vegetable, etc.: I agree with you wholeheartedly. What two or more consenting adults do in their privacy of their own home is nobody else's business but their own.

    And I don't have an issue with the death penalty, either.

    Ideas are only as useful as the medium they are printed on. Everything else is useless campaign drivel designed to get someone in office so they can gain political power and money - once they have that, they won't soon let go of it - even if it means buying votes. Democrat/Republican - keep the masses ignorant of the endgame by facilitating arguments over the petty things. The sad thing is, their strategy is working.

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    I have not voted Republican in several years--likely even at least a decade or two--but I don't care for Martha so guess it's time for a change--for me as well as this time round. I don't think Scott will win--but he'll get my vote--at least this time round.

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    I see that Bill Clinton is coming to Massachusetts to campaign for Martha Coakley. Vicki Kennedy is on Coakley's campaign trail, too. With all this high-profile support, I find myself wondering why Gov. Deval Patrick isn't out there helping Martha become our next U.S. senator. Is he too busy to assist or have I just missed Gov. Patrick telling me why Ms. Coakley deserves my vote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exit32 View Post
    Is he too busy to assist or have I just missed Gov. Patrick telling me why Ms. Coakley deserves my vote?
    I think it's his 52% disapproval rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dweir View Post
    I think it's his 52% disapproval rating.
    Ah ... that would also explain why President Obama isn't here campaigning for Martha Coakley. He tried to help Gov. Corzine in NJ, but it didn't work out.

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    I'm just not impressed with either the Coakley or Brown. Usually in a case like this I'd just back the 3rd party candidate with the hopes of breaking down the 2 party system but this is a very important election. Coakley is inept and her poor handling of many past cases has left me speachless. Her now constant Bush Cheney mantra tells me she is just following DNC talking points, no fresh ideas, just another hack. Brown appears to be running on that he's not Martha Coakley. I will admit that he's the best judge ever on Community Auditions! I was a little surprised for him to think that being on that show was a good career move for a Senate hopefull. I (sometimes) enjoy the show, my father actually won the very first Community Auditions show back in 1950 (singing Old Man River). Its like he's bursting at the seams to say something but he really has nothing to say other than he's not Martha Coakley. Kennedy seems to be the first Libertarian candidate that isn't completely insane or unrealistic. Its a tough call! Lets see what they all have to say over the next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostdog View Post
    "Usually in a case like this I'd just back the 3rd party candidate with the hopes of breaking down the 2 party system"

    my hero

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    Sounds like a Crown Royal night!! ;-)

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